FEBRUARY 18TH, 2021 - TRUTH ABOUT RITTENHOUSE MONEY
Correction: Call is from 2/5/21 on 1/13/21 Pierce attempted to hock bond
JP: Wendy, this is Gordon Rose. Gordon this is Kyle’s mom, Wendy Rittenhouse.
GR: Hi Wendy nice to meet you.
WR: Hi good morning.
GR: Good morning. How are you this morning?
WR: I’m okay.
GR: Okay good, good. Well first off let me say I appreciate very much so the opportunity to do this interview with you. And with John. You know, I guess to start off with I’ve spent a great deal of time this week, you know researching besides the case of course, all the details surrounding what you guys have been through as a family. So I guess my first question for you Wendy would be is how are you guys holding up? I understand you’re a mother of three. So how are you guys doing?
WR: We go day by day. We stay strong for Kyle. And the girls are staying strong for me and Kyle also. Our life is a lot different now.
GR: I understand.
WR: And we just have to be strong for Kyle.
GR: Yeah, I was reading somewhere that of course you guys had to change locations for security issues and things like that. So seems to be a lot of…I can’t even imagine what that must be like to have to go through that. My heart goes out to you and your family for that.
WR: Thank you.
GR: I certainly send a lot of good vibes and prayers your way for sure.
WR: Yeah we had to leave our apartment and everything. People were threatening our lives and stuff like that and it wasn’t safe to go back. We’re in a secure location now.
GR: That’s good to know that. I guess we can get into some of the event itself in minute as well. The other thing I had read, and seen some petitions - so seems to me there’s a lot of presumptions and fake news stories that came out where people were trying to do petitions to have you arrested. As it turns out factually, none of those accusations turned out to be true of you driving Kyle that day.
JP: Just going to step in real quick Gordon. As Wendy can tell you herself, Wendy had absolutely zero to do, nothing to do with the events of that night other than being worried about where Kyle was whenever she realized he was not at home. And so I just want be absolutely clear about that.
WR: I wasn’t there.
GR: I read a couple statements that you had already made in respects to that. It seems by the time…seems what the truth of the matter is, by the time you saw Kyle you guys were going out to look for him once you heard of all the unrest getting accelerated. And then by the time you got back home to the apartment, Kyle was at that point there, right?
WR: Yup. He was already there.
CHANGE.ORG CONTINUES PROMOTION OF THIS PETITION WHICH IS ACTIVE ON THEIR SITE IN SPITE OF IT BEING BASED ON A LIE. WENDY DIDN'T DRIVE KYLE TO WISCONSIN ACCORDING TO JOHN PIERCE. THE MOTHER OF THREE DIDN'T SEE HER SON UNTIL LATER THAT EVENING AT THEIR APARTMENT IN ILLINOIS. THE FUNDRAISING SITE STILL ALLOWS OTHER DEFAMATORY PETITIONS CALLING FOR WENDY'S ARREST BASED ON A COMPLETE FABRICATION.
JP: And Gordon one thing to emphasize, and I think you probably already realize this, because I know how much you follow the story, and reviewed the videos. In every respects Kyle acted with quintessential reasonableness the night. Not only with respects to the self defense shootings, but also he attempted to turn himself in at the same to multiple Kenosha police department units. In fact it was not practical for him to attempt to turn himself in at any kind of of Kenosha or Kenosha area Police department, because due to the Mayor and the Governor refusing to provide a basic degree of law and order. Those facilities were basically non operational. And were shut down and/or surrounded by rioters. So Kyle did the next most reasonable thing, which is he went out and was very close to Kenosha. And within minutes, he and the family made the very admirable decision, and the right decision to go ahead and turn himself in, in fact.
GR: I noticed of course when this all first started, as a journalist I started analyzing the videos myself. I think it’s pretty self evident, if you look when Rosenbaum attacks Kyle. At the same time that initial gunshot that allegedly was a warning shot by Joshua Ziminski. It seems to me it was almost within the same minute practically. Isn’t that about what about what you guys have deduced at this point?
JP: Yeah and Wendy of course does not have any knowledge about what actually happened that night. It’s been hard for her to even watch the videos because it’s been so emotional for her. Now that the proceedings are in Wisconsin criminal court, I do want to be mindful about not trying the case in public.
GR: Of course.
JP: I can say that yes, there was a shot fired from behind Kyle in his direction as he was being hunted by rioters who were coming at him at full speed with the intent to kill him. And he had no choice. And he was surrounded on every side by rioters with weapons. So he had no choice as Mr. Rosenbaum was set upon him and reached to take his firearm. Kyle obviously had no choice but to fire in self defense. Because he was in imminent fear of serious bodily harm or death at that point.
GR: I think that’s self evident to any reasonable person that uses their critical thinking to analyze the data that’s already in the public domain. So John, I’m curious as a side issue to your point of not litigating the case in the media. I appreciate that - but are you aware, have any charges been filed against the arsonists, against the funders of the protests or even against Gaige for possessing a handgun as a felon - have any other charges been filed?
ON OCTOBER 16TH, 2020, WEBSITE TRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM PUBLISHED WISCONSIN PROSECUTORS DROPPED FELONY CHARGES, 2ND DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY AGAINST FIRST SHOOTER JOSHUA ZIMINSKI. ONLY CHARGE THAT REMAINS ACCORDING TO TAG IS DISORDERLY CONDUCT, WHICH IS A MISDEMEANOR. A DEMONSTRATION OF SELECTIVE AND UNFAIR PROSECUTION OF RITTENHOUSE.
JP: As you may have seen, if you watched my Tucker appearance. I think you can see my frustration at this very particular point, which is a very good point that you raise. The only charge I’m aware of is the charge against Mr. Ziminski for firing, when in actuality I think that they only charged him with disorderly conduct. I believe that the Kenosha police department wanted him charged with more serious charges. But the District Attorney decided to simply charge him with disorderly conduct. So that of course will play its course in the legal proceedings. I’m not aware of anybody else who’s been charged with respect to the arson that occurred that night. With respect to any of the other individuals that were attacking Kyle, obviously it's our position that those individuals should be charged. That's of course up to the District Attorney. I will say, and I know I speak for Wendy on this front, to say it's frustrating is an understatement. It's very frustrating.
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GR: It seems to me that there's definitely some unfair targeting going on. The political motivations behind trying to defame this young man, these false accusations of him being a white supremacist or militia member.
JP: It’s outrageous.
JP: It’s outrageous. To put a fine point on that. And I know how strong Wendy feels about this. She could speak for herself if she would like to. The quintessential sort of episode of how outrageous those kind of allegations are of course is the fact that Vice President Biden and Senator Harris used Kyle in a false defamatory way to try and paint him as a white supremacist in a campaign video the day after the first debate. It’s just the height of…it’s a disgrace. It’s a disgrace that they did that, and they will be held accountable.
GR: I’m glad you brought that up. Because I actually reviewed that video several times last night. And candidly I find it quite disgusting. Now I did read somewhere...has there been an action filed for that defamation issue?
JP: There's been a cease and desist letter sent by Attorney Lin Wood. We are now determining in terms of timing, what's the best timing and best strategy for that. Obviously theres a lot going on with Kyle’s case. Theres a lot going on in the country. But that lawsuit is coming. And it’s not in the too distant future.
GR: That’s good. Wendy did you want to comment further on that issue at all?
WR: Yeah. When I came upon that video I was disgusted by former Vice President Joe Biden and him using my son as his political election of this stuff. It just makes me sick to my stomach that he is using a 17 year old for his political campaign. It just makes me angry still. And how could he do that to a 17 year old? He needs to worry about what’s going on in his own family than mine. This makes me so angry towards him. I’ll tell you right now, I did not vote for him whatsoever.
GR: Understandable. That's a disgusting display of what they did and they should be ashamed of themselves. From my perspective as a journalist, my news company and our mission statement is "exposing any business or government hurting We The People". Regardless of political affiliations or business interests. It quite floored me when reviewing that piece of it. I can certainly understand how that would make you feel. To stack that on top of your son is being persecuted for political reasons when it’s an obvious self defense. Righteous self defense. Again, I can't imagine what you must be going through emotionally there. I encourage you to stay strong.
WR: He just lit a fire under me. And I will fight every moment, everyday to get my son out of Kenosha county jail. With the help of all these wonderful lawyers. I couldn't ask for a better team. Kyle has the A-Team and we will get him out. Anybody who says otherwise, I have no comment for that. Anybody who knows me when it comes to my children, you’re messing with fire. Because I will be stronger. You’re going to make me stronger, and it's gonna make me fight 10 times harder to get my son out.
EVEN AFTER THE INFAMOUS DEFAMATORY TWEET BY THE JOE BIDEN CAMPAIGN - HIS OFFICIAL YOUTUBE CHANNEL STILL FALSELY PAINTS KYLE AS A WHITE SUPREMACIST AT THE 10 SECOND MARK IN THIS VIDEO WHICH CREATES THE VERY RACIAL DIVISION JOE BIDEN PURPORTS HE WANTS TO PREVENT
JP: I just wanted to say Gordon, I’ve had the pleasure to get to really know this family. Including how extraordinarily well over this last few months. This is the strongest set of people I’ve ever come across. These are good mid western Americans who have an inner fortitude that is hard to describe. The sole focus right now that I really want your readers to really hear this. And really help on this front. Our sole focus right now is getting Kyle bailed out. There is a 2 million dollar cash bail in Wisconsin. There's no bond. One has to put 2 million cash on the barrel head. The Fightback Foundation that Lin Wood and I started, but I’ve since stepped off the board from to avoid a conflict of interest. The Fightback Foundation has been doing an amazing job raising all the money to get this legal team built. We’re just about there in terms of bail, so I would ask all your readers to please go to fightback.law to donate so we can get it over the finish line and get Kyle with his family pending trial. If for whatever reason there's anyone out there that would prefer to make it a donation directly to the family, they can reach me and I can facilitate that.
GR: Okay that's great. That's some good information to update the public on. How close are we to this benchmark of hitting that number?
JP: It’s hard for me to precisely say because I did step off the board of Fightback. We get closer everyday. I think we’re looking at the couple or few hundred thousand dollar type of figure that we need to push over the finish line. Something in that neighborhood. We get closer everyday. If everybody that reads this donates $100.00, $250.00, $50.00 or anything they can - this kid will be home in no time with his family.
GR: That’s wonderful news. I’m glad to hear that. I can tell you Wendy, I have a pretty big following in Arizona as that’s where most of my news work is done. Since I had announced that I was interviewing Mr. Pierce, I’ve gotten so many calls and messages to tell you and John, that you guys have so much support. As I’m sure you know, there’s literally millions of citizens throughout the country that are supporting you and your family from both a spiritual aspect and from a legal aspect. That's certainly a real positive thing. How is Kyle doing now? Can you tell me a little bit about how he's holding up?
JP: Let me say that first and then Wendy can jump in. Because due to the restrictions in the Kenosha facility that he’s detained, I’m the only one that can go see him obviously. He gets to talk to his mom a fair amount. But the first thing I wanted to say on that front was to your point Gordon about all the support and millions of people that support Kyle. I can tell you and want your readers to understand how important that is to Kyle personally and to the family. That is helping him stay strong. He knows he didn’t do anything wrong. He knows at some point he’s going to be cleared of these charges. He sends his prayers to every single person that supports him in anyway shape and form. And I can tell you Kyle prays for the families of the individuals he had no choice but to defend himself against. This is a God fearing Patriotic, amazing, amazing kid. He’s doing real well actually. Because he knows he has truth on his side. And like the say, the truth will set you free. He knows at some point that this will work out, and he just wants to be home with his family now.
GR: That's really good to hear that. It's a real positive thing knowing that Kyle is in that mental and spiritual space. Because certainly for being such a young man, to be under such pressure and to be able to be that resilient speaks to the quality of his character.
JP: Resilient is the perfect word. Credit to Wendy and the whole family for raising such an amazing child. He’s so resilient I can't even describe it.
GR: That's great. Wonderful to hear. Wendy did you want to put some input on that?
WR: Kyle’s holding up. He’s a strong young man. He prays everyday...everyday. We talk. He’ll be home soon. And he thanks everybody for the support and all the love that he’s been getting, and he just wants to come home.
GR: Well it sounds like according to what John was talking about raising the bail money, it seems that hopefully that line will be crossed very soon.
JP: Yes sir.
GR: Jumping back to the case, as far you know, generally speaking I suppose John...I know a big benchmark for the case just past as far as him getting extradited. Is there anything you can speak to in the public currently about the general legal strategy moving forward?
JP: Yes. So look I can share what's no secret. Which this is a pure self defense case. 100% text book self defense. It’s not even close quite frankly. We have with the assistance of the fightback foundation built a team of the very best Wisconsin criminal defense attorneys who are going to lead the charge in Wisconsin. Myself and several other terrific lawyers are going be right there with him to do whatever’s necessary to free Kyle. The next court date is the preliminary hearing which is December 3rd.
GR: So it’s coming up here pretty quick. Of course we’ll all see how that plays out as it progresses. I guess in closing, for the bigger picture John, this case has obvious huge ramifications pertaining to Second Amendment and setting precedents on self defense. Can you maybe in closing tell anybody that runs across this interview how truly important it is that he’s cleared?
JP: I predict to you Gordon that this case is going to go down in history for centuries as a case that reinvigorates America's God given rights to self defense. The bottom line is very simple. If Kyle Rittenhouse cannot defend himself in the very, very reasonable and perfectly legally justified way that he did on that night when he went to the town he loved to provide medical aid to wounded protesters. And then was hunted down by a mob that tried to kill him. Remember the only individuals he shot that he had no choice but to shoot were the very individuals that were trying to kill him. He did not shoot another single human being. And so the point is - if this is not self defense in Kyle Rittenhouse's case, from a practical standpoint, there is no right of self defense in this country. There's no ability to defend oneself. Defend ones community. Defends ones family. Every other right that we have, every other right that we have depends upon the right of self defense as enshrined in the Second Amendment of the Constitution of course. If the government can essentially take away our right to defend ourselves, this is no longer the United States. This is an existential important case that we must win.
GR: It seems that way. It's also very self evident to many people observing this, is that unfortunately because of the corporatized controlled media that has interests in mind that are not true First Amendment issues. Which is were I take issue with the media in general as a whole that seems to be in collusion with elements in local and federal governments, to you know paint Kyle into this corner. I’m really hoping that soon the issue really is raised about who is really responsible for the deaths. To me there is sub issue here that needs to be raised. The liability of the local government for not providing adequate security. And it seems to me because for whatever reasons, the security not being adequate enough is really what opened up to me as what I define as a quasi war zone. And I think that issue needs to really be brought forth.
JP: There's some very dark forces at play in the country these days Gordon. And I think there's a lot to uncover about not only what happened that night the way you’re suggesting in Kenosha, but in dozens of other American cities. We need to get to the bottom of it. I will also say specifically that the social media companies in this country need to be held to account as well. The degree to which Twitter and Facebook have not only defamed Kyle in the most vicious way, but have prevented his side of the story from getting out by banning his lawyers, suspending his lawyers. Shutting down the links to the fightback.law website to get donations is brazen. They’re not even trying to hide it anymore. They are going to be held accountable as well. If Congress won't rescind section 230, there's going to be a judge in this country somewhere who is going to interpret it the right way. It was not meant to allow these companies to choose sides in political debates. And they’re going be held accountable for it.
GR: I couldn’t agree more.
WR: With Facebook - anybody who puts something positive down about Kyle, they go to Facebook jail for like 30 days. We tried a go fund me for legal before the Fightback Foundation came up. They shut it down. I was at, where am I going to get the money to raise to get legal? One lawyer before I talked to John wanted $400,000.00 right up front. I don’t have that. I used to work at a nursing home and I had to work doubles to make rent. I’m a middle class American trying to provide for my family. This is a tragic event that happened. I couldn’t be more grateful for the Fight Back Foundation to help Kyle and stuff like that. With Facebook and Twitter going in and taking down the websites for Kyle's help and having other peoples stuff up there, for I mean saying who's right and who's wrong, and taking Kyle's stuff down...and how am I supposed to raise any kind of funds for Kyle for his legal defense? With Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter…I am lost with words with them. I'm very disgusted by them.
GR: Well you’re not alone with that Wendy.
AS TWITTER CONTINUES TO CENSOR AND DEPLATFORM CONSERVATIVES - JACK DORSEY SEEMS TO THINK IT'S OKAY FOR TWITTER USERS TO BE ALLOWED CONTINUAL DEFAMATORY POSTS LIKE THIS COMMENT FROM A TWITTER ACCOUNT CALLING WENDY RITTENHOUSE "RACIST MOMMA".
GR: In simple terms, my news agency was founded on that very premise. Discovering that for example E.W. Scripps is a publicly held company with many network affiliates throughout the country. It’s pretty obvious that the social media companies have molded themselves after this one sided delivery of news and information. To me, it almost borders on antitrust issues to an extent, John wouldn’t you agree?
JP: 1000% - these companies should have been broken Teddy Roosevelt style years ago. I believe that's the direction we're heading in. You know we'll have to see what happens with this election which is completely still up in the air. More fraud is revealed every single day in these battle ground States. We'll have to see what happens with this election. Sooner or later these companies have to be broken up. They’re essentially public utility monopolies at this point.
GR: I couldn’t agree with you more. Well listen for both of you. I know your time is so valuable. #THEUNEVEN news and Clip Artist Films appreciates you taking so much time today to spend with us and tell the update on what's going on. And as things progress we look forward to circling back with you guys with some future updates. And Wendy if there's anything you ever need to tell publicly, always feel free to get a hold of our news organization. Be happy to be a place for you to get your voice out.
WR: Thank you.
JP: Thank you so much Gordon for everything.
GR: Likewise, have a wonderful day and talk to you guys soon.
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JOHN PIERCE SPEAKS WITH KYLE FROM JAIL AS HE THANKS EVERYONE FOR THEIR SUPPORT
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